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Time Machine in macOS can work within a number of apps, letting you retrieve older versions of files or even deleted email messages in the Mail app. However, if an entire folder of stuff goes away.
These days, messages are sent as soon as you ... err... send them, so there's no longer a need for this limbo.
'Many of us are very particular about email delivery and want to know if we have messages waiting to go out.'
Isn't it more likely that many people assume their message has been sent, unless the Outbox appears?
Some people travel a lot, and find that the internet is actually not always available everywhere. In fact, it turns out that there are quite a lot of places where it's not. Furthermore, some people have things like corporate email servers which require them to be connected to a VPN to send email when offsite, which they are often not, whether because of lack of an internet connection or other issues. The problem is compounded by the fact that when you are frequently offline, Mail seems to do a somewhat bad job at actually sending things when you do come back online. Or so one might suspect, but it's hard to verify and even harder to report bugs when the outbox isn't visible to _show_ that you've got waiting outbound messages.
There's also the case where you're using Mac Mail to access an Exchange server and your Exchange presence is down (this is the problem I had yesterday which left me looking for an Outbox to verify delivery... or the lack thereof... and is what prompted my solution... yes, I'm the author of the hint). In this case, I had full internet connectivity, but the mail server was having problems and I needed to see the contents of the Outbox to know when things were working again, etc.
I have a corporate account that used to be like this in the old days. No VPN, no mail going out or coming. With time the corp IT changed and now we do not suffer the 'Outbox' issue.
The only times I really want to check my Outbox is when the mail does not go and that happens when there are problems and Mail shows me the box.
It is a nice to have option to show the outbox. I believe that Mail should have a setting to enable or disable it.
Rather than creating the bogus SMTP server couldn't I just take my Mac offline (turn off Airport and/or ethernet) and try to send an email using an existing server in order to get the Outbox to show? (I would try this myself but I already tried your hint and haven't figured how to remove the Outbox icon yet.)
I was able to do this more simply by: disconnect from broadband, send e-mail to self, Outbox appears and can be dragged into Favourites bar.
Remember to reconnect!
I didn't have to set a bogus smtp server, just turn of Airport (WiFi) on your computer or disconnect any ethernet cable or turn off any other way that you use to connect to internet. Send an email and automatically it will be sent to the Outbox that will appear, then just move it to the favorites bar.
It's a lot easier this way.
Thank you for the tip.
No, thank you.
This is not working for me. I get the message that the server is offline, but no offer to send it later and no appearance of an Out mailbox.
I am returning to report that this morning the Outbox appeared when I opened the mail app. So I too now have one permanently!
Nice tip, thanks!
Great tip, extremely helpful.
Outbound mail seems to be a bit unreliable, so it's great to be easily able to see if there is anything stuck in the outbox.
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Did you ever try dropping into the terminal and changing permissions there?
something like 'sudo chown username mailBox'
What you need to do is find out what your new UID (User ID) is. Not your username but the number your Mac assigned to your username. There are a bunch of ways to do that but a simple way is to create a file then list the file to find out who owns it.
In the terminal touch a file
Now list it using the '-n' flag
ls -aln foo
You should see somthing like this:
-rw-r--r-- 1 501 0 0 Jan 22 07:23 foo
In this case the UID of the created file is '501' and the group ID (GID) is '0' Now all you need to do is change the ownership of the old mail directory.
Make sure to use the '-R' to rucursively change ownership and use the UID and GID from above:
sudo chown -R 501:0 foo
This will change both the owner and group of the dirctory to you. Good Luck!
I ran into a problem where my inbox was set as read-only, but it wasn't a problem with the changed user name. Somehow the extended attributes got set as follows:
0 drwx------+ 4 user group 136 Dec 24 13:54:21 2008 INBOX.mbox 0: group:everyone deny add_file,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,writeattr,writeextattr,chown
Run the following command to get rid of the attributes:
Macos Mail Search Tips
% chmod -a# 0 INBOX.mbox/
And then make sure you have complete access by doing:
chmod u+rwx INBOX.mbox/
Macos Mail Search
Maybe this will help someone else with the same problem as me and is doing a Google search.